It doesn't list all the sources it stole, sorry, borrowed information from. There was no need to delete this article. If you don't like the wording of the first part, feel free to change it. This is probably from the same person that kept trying to add inflammatory remarks to the article. The person mentioning 'hodgepodge of ideas' doesn't care to look into the Credits information included in the mod, or the countless mentions of where many ideas came from in the history file. Some people just like to crap all over the work of others.

There is nothing 'npov' about the article, and it contributes no less to Wikipedia than hundreds of other articles on specific game mods.

The latter suggestion does sound far more appropriate.

The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.114.123.217 ( talk I think its mention in the Space Empires IV article would be sufficient coverage as long as a link was provided to the mod in that mention. I think that does qualify as a NPOV and I'll research further after work and when I can log in.īut really, the question needs to be asked if this article is useful to the wikipedia. Reading the first part, it does sound like it it is promoting the topic instead of discussing it. It does also mention that it contains other peoples works.

I personally feel that while this article isn't NPOV totally (it was written by the author of the mod is question), it lacks sources from independent sources and lacks nuetrality.

The article doesn't even include that virtually all SE fans realize this mod is nothing more than a hodgepodge of ideas from other mods created by other people, with the Adamant Mod creator taking all credit. Frankly, you can't get much more biased than that. This entire article is written by the mod's creator. Neither T, D nor M was part of the SEIV beta.

I reworded the part for the TDM mod a bit as it was not created in the beta of SEIV but after its release.

I also removed the links to the adamant mod and kwok's fan site as they seemed inappropriate for the article. I also added links to existing mods next to the mod's name and added the TDM mod information to round-out the scope of mods presented as examples in this article.

Mods I've cleaned up the mod section a bit by removing information about game mods in development that lacked reference material.

Adamant mod squabble aside, does anyone care if the discussion below gets blanked or archived, We should resume talk on improving this article first.

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